Thursday, October 24, 2013

Solved: The Thier-Disselbrede Mystery - Part 5


In 1796, William Disselbrett's grandfather J.H. Thier married a woman who's father was Jodocus Henricus Disselbrede.  Thus began this confusion between which is the name.  Is it Disselbrede or is it Thier?  The confusion started in Germany.



It's confused even more by this marriage record.  When J.H. Their and Anna Sybilla Gertrudis Disselbrede wed in 1796, the Selm, Germany church record had her and her father going by the surname of her mother, Langerman.  No Disselbrede mentioned.


FamilySearch.org has another explanation for this family name change with the index of the diocescan baptismal record for Anna Sybilla Gertrude Disselbrede.  It reads "Jodocus Henrich Disselbrede or Langermann."

Any way you look at it though, it's another leap.  This is one family, but in the span of two generations there were two name changes.  I contend that these are the same people.


The 1803 baptismal record for J.H. and Anna Sybilla's third child also holds some clues.



Zoom into the father's name.  It references "Jon Henrich Disselbrede born Thier."  The word kottar means cultivator or farmer.



The godparents appear to be young Maria Getrude's grandparents, her fraternal grandmother "Gertrude Disselbrede born Langerman" and her paternal grandfather Joannes Bernardus Their.

But, as I wrote in Part 4, Anna Sybilla Gertrude Disselbrede Langerman is not William Disselbrett's grandmother. 

Part Six explains how that can be.

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